Hiiiii!!!! I love your blog and can I ask do you think enjoltaire was real? And how do you not get sad from what happened and stuff. I’m new to the fandom and it’s really made me go into depressive episodes again but it’s so good I love it and I am confused whether enjoltaire was real? I get that grantaire liked enjolras but did he back do you think?? And he didn’t act on it because of the revolution and how it was back then with gay rights. Also are you able to read french? That’s amazing !!

enjolra-s:

I’m glad you like my blog! And I’ve been learning French since I was 13, but I’m not fluent in it (yet) haha. 

I can’t say that enjoltaire was real, because the only person who could really say that was Victor Hugo haha. I do ship them together but all I can tell you is which parts of Les Miserables show that there could have been something.

Actually I already talked about it a while ago in THIS ASK. But I’ll give you some more details!!!

Just, about the gay rights in the 19th century France – after 1791 gay sex was no more a capital crime in France. It still wouldn’t really let two gay men to be out and be in a relationship, but it’s important to remember that it was completely normal for two men/two women to live together, “just as friends” back then. It was normal for them to cuddle and sleep in the same bed. LGBT history is more complex than most people think it is! 

But now back to Les Mis – when describing Enjolras, Hugo compares him to many maaaaany well known gay characters/people. 

“He was a savage Antinous.” – Antinous was a lover of the Roman emperor Hadrian. He died when he was in his early twenties and in the 19th century he replaced Ganymede as a western gay icon. Oscar Wilde often talked about him. 

“the bare throat of Evadne would have moved him no more than it would have moved Aristogeiton; he, like Harmodius, thought flowers good for nothing except to conceal the sword” – both Aristogeiton and Harmodius were lovers who killed the tyrant of Athens.

And while talking about Grantaire and Enjolras’ relationship he mentions not only gay people but gay people who were in relationships. 

“They are Pollux, Patrocles, Nisus, Eudamidas, Ephestion, Pechmeja.

Patroclus – a character from Homer’s Iliad. He was a close friend and probably a lover of Achilles.

Nisus – Nisus and  Euryalus were lovers from Virgil’s Aeneid.

Ephestion, Hephaestion – was a very close friend of Alexander the Great. They both compared themselves to Achilles and Patroclus and many believe that they were lovers.

Pechmeja – Pechmeja was a writer in the 18th century. He was a friend of

Dubrueil, a doctor. When the writer got sick, his friend stayed with him until he was healthy again, but even then he didn’t move out and soon both men started living together. A few years later it was

Dubrueil

who fell sick and this time the illness was both contagious and terminal, but his friend refused to leave him alone.

Dubrueil

died in April 1785 and Pechmeja died a month later. 

“In the series O and P are inseparable. You can, at will, pronounce O and P or Orestes and Pylades.” – Orestes and Pylades avenged Orestes’ father, Agamemnon after the man had been killed by his wife. Their relationship is sometimes interpreted as romantic. 

I hope it helps just a bit with understanding their relationship and I totally encourage everyone to study all comparisons etc Hugo made because they are very interesting!

enjolra-s:

So I’ve noticed that there constantly are discourses in the fandom about whether Enjolras was gay or not. And I think that it may be a little bit confusing for those who haven’t read the book or only read some parts of it or aren’t that interested in history of Greece, Rome and France (and sewers). 

That’s why I decided to make a post with all reasons why Enjolras could be a gay character! And also because I’m a nerd. 

elphabaforpresidentofgallifrey:

imtrying13:

toujours-fidele:

ask-the-egos:

mindfulwrath:

apricots-from-nara:

oni-queen:

sassenach-kiss:

let’s stop kidding ourselves, we all know the true otp is Jedediah and Octavius from Night At the Museum 

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they quote gay movies

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they watch cat videos on youtube 

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they take selfies

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I’m pretty sure they actually became canon in NatM3? 

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come on there’s no way you can’t ship them

That last gif looks like Octavius was looking for a kiss, and well Jed misunderstood completely.

Being a homosexual in Octavius’ time was perfectly acceptable, which makes this all the more funny cause I think he thinks there can be something more, but Jeb is literally clueless as hell.

Cowboys in the Old West were also notoriously gay

MY TRUE OTP

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

They both look like ‘shit I should’ve kissed him’ in the last gif…

they’re true gays because they’re both so fucking clueless they think the other one isnt interested

sherierenescott:

QUEER REPRESENTATION IS IMPORTANT

IF YOU’VE NEVER HAD TO LOOK FOR ALLUSIONS, AND SUBTEXT, AND ALLITERATION, AND THROW AWAY LINES TO SEE YOURSELF IN LITERATURE AND TELEVISION AND MOVIES YOU ARE LUCKY AS HECK BUT DON’T YOU DARE TELL ME THAT REPRESENTATION ISN’T IMPORTANT

SEEING YOURSELF ON TV AND MOVIES AND IN LITERATURE IS IMPORTANT

SEEING THAT YOU’RE NOT ALONE IS IMPORTANT

SEEING THAT YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE AND BE HAPPY AND ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE IS IMPORTANT

IT HELPS YOU REALIZE THAT THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU AND THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE LIKE YOU GOING THROUGH THE SAME THINGS YOU’RE GOING THROUGH AND LIVING AND SURVIVING AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT

IF YOU THINK “QUEER REPRESENTATION ISN’T IMPORTANT" I ADVISE YOU TO GET THE FRICK AWAY FROM ME BECAUSE YOU MAKE ME WANT TO PUKE ALL OVER YOUR FACE

the-moon-loves-the-sea:

Pride is our family history. Pride is taking on the weight of all that courage, realizing we are what they hoped for,

Pride is a group of girls in 1922 dancing in the basement of a Parisian gay bar,

Pride is Gavin Grimm standing in court day after day for the sake of all the trans kids who just want to use the bathroom at school,

Pride is Marsha P. Johnson walking down the street with flowers in her hair, wearing a dress that’s going to get her arrested,

Pride is all the lesbians in the pews at every gay kid’s funeral in 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985,

Pride is Harvey Milk repeating You gotta give em hope. Smiling at the cameras, waiting for that bullet to find its mark,

Pride is Magnus Hirschfield and the WhK showing up to lobby for gay rights day after day in 1898, getting the police to hand out gender passes to the trans kids in the streets, collecting 100,000 queer people’s stories for posterity, We were here,

Pride is a Victorian priest marrying two men in the sight of God and several dozen noisy friends. Pride is a dried bouquet kept on display in two men’s front parlor,

Pride is Edward Carpenter holding George’s hand while they walk around the garden and the village police refusing to give a damn about it because George and Edward are ours, they take care of us and we take care of them,

Pride is a hundred generations of indigenous queer tradition held onto in defiance while the colonials make straightness the way of the Lord,

Pride is Lili Elbe waiting in the hospital with her wife for a surgery only a half-dozen people had attempted in all of history,

Pride is a butch girl putting her arm around her girlfriend’s shoulders outside a drag show while the police kick and push people into the back of a van one by one,

Pride is identity, Pride is family history, Pride is holding onto other people’s memories, Pride is us.

fuckyeahasexual:

actuallyasexual:

ivebeenabaaaaadsk8rboi:

what is ace/aro culture someone please help

  • Picking up any aesthetically pleasing book. 
  • Putting down the aesthetically pleasing book after reading its dull amatonormative/heteronormative summary. 
  • Mourning the waste of a good book cover on a dull narrative.
  • All your relatable protagonists are aliens or robots. 
  • Or, all your relatable characters are antagonists.
  • Or, all the relatable narratives are Science Fiction and/or Horror. 
  • Taking “Netflix & Chill” quite literally.
  • Thinking about a future without all your most important friendships, and dissociating to avoid the impending anxiety and panic attacks. 
  • Refusing to buy anything that doesn’t perfectly fit your aesthetic.
  • Feeling incredibly overwhelmed and emotional when something perfectly fits your aesthetic, like, to the point of tears.
  • Somehow being very good at relationship advice, even though the thought of giving relationship advice is mentally exhausting.
  • Your wardrobe becomes black, purple, and gray without you even trying.
  • Being paranoid that your innocuous interactions with people will be misinterpreted as flirtation. 
  • Dadaism makes more sense to you than it should. 
  • Trying to be as repulsive as possible so people don’t hit on you. 
  • Trying to be as aesthetically attractive as possible, not realizing that people will hit on you.
  • Not realizing that people are hitting on you. 
  • People think you’re “eccentric” for spending so much time and money on things rather than on other people.
  • Zoning out to daydream about epic fight scenes while your friends ask you which person is more attractive to you. 
  • Thinking about getting married for the tax benefits, and the idea of political marriages isn’t so weird to you.
  • Eating all of food at parties because everyone else is hooking up, and someone has to do it. 
  • Getting asked out to prom by someone who has a crush on you, but choosing to go with two friends as your ‘date’ instead.
  • Isolating yourself so you don’t get too attached to people.
  • Also, getting attached to people. 

etc. 

Bingo

one-piece-of-harry:

putmymusiconshuffleidareyou:

putmymusiconshuffleidareyou:

one-piece-of-harry:

The real reason it’s a fucking travesty Peter Parker is “straight” is that he would have a fucking field day making gay jokes. Imagine Spiderman wit mixed with millennial gay humour. He’d be unstoppable

[Criminal, or Steve. Or someone] give it to me straight. Why is some kid swinging around and beating up people in Queens?

[Peter] First of all, nothing I do is straight.

[Villain punches him]

[Peter] this is homophobia.

[Someone. Probably Tony] he said nothing about gay people, though?

[Peter] but he hit me. So again. Homophobia.

[Tony] you could not have picked a worse time to come out of the closet.

[Peter] bold of you to assume I was ever in the closet to begin with. I’ve been giving off Chaotic Twink Energy my whole damn life.

Aunt may: so why can’t you get your driver’s license again??

Peter: I’m???? Gay????

I’m new to this fandom. I only watched the film the other day and I really want to read the book but I need to know do you think enjolras liked grantaire and did grantaire like enjolras???

enjolra-s:

So at the beginning I’d like to say that even though I’ve read the book multiple times, those are just my personal thoughts! And I’d also like to mention that I see Enjolras as a heavily gay coded character (in a way that Victor Hugo would still be able to publish the book in 1860s, of course) (and Grantaire as a bi character but I have less sources for that than for Enjolras being gay). 

So.. I believe that there was no secret relationship between Grantaire and Enjolras. As much as I think they’d be able to keep their relationship secret in the 19th century Paris, I don’t think anything in the book indicates that there could be something

But! I do believe that there could have been something. We are only given a few chapters in which we see them interacting but even from the description of Grantaire Hugo is trying to tell us something? “Grantaire admired, loved and venerated Enjolras’’, “He had a need of Enjolras. That chaste, healthy, firm, upright, hard, candid nature charmed him, without his being clearly aware of it, and without the idea of explaining it to himself having occurded to him.’’. Then Hugo compares Grantaire and his relationship with Enjolras to, for example, Hephaestion (close friend and probably a lover of Alexander the Great), Patroclus (again.. close friend and probably a lover of Achilles from  Homer’s Iliad), Pechmeja and Pylades (I spoke about them in THIS post which is very old and I’m gonna redo it one day because I haven’t mentioned of some things in it). 

So yes, I think that both had some feelings for the other one, but due to the times they lived in, their own rather stubborn, sometimes clashing personalities and the lack of time, they never learnt about them and their relationship forever stayed in the ‘maybe’ phase. 

And I think that Hugo knew what he was doing (for all those who think that I’m lying – Victor Hugo knew about gay people and he even mentioned the possibility of a man being attracted to another man in Les Miserables! It’s not like they made us all in 1980s.)  

I’d be more than happy to discuss everything about enjoltaire and all chapters and comparisons but as you mentioned – you haven’t read the book and I don’t want to make you see some spoilers!